May I ask why did you prefer this make up to the more common Aberdeen last and blind eyelets? Its personal and cultural, like many of these things, but I associate the bit loafer strongly with cheap Gucci ones in the 80s, and all associated knock-offs. $425.00 sold out. Ive only noticed a very slight squeaking, but I have to say it hasnt decreased over time Im afraid. Black Chromexcel Brass Boot Restock Pedag Tongue Pads. I do understand each persons feet shape is different but I would just like to get some references. Introducing the Harlestone Hand Stitch Sneaker. Thanks Simon! Original Price USD 145.00 Thanks John, great to have the recommendation. Shell Cordovan is really quite a stellar leather to wear. I had these loafers for years but eventually the cordovan gave out at one of the ripples. Reach out to Ealdwine in Raleigh NC USA. Id imagine the black Alden will be a little easier, as theyll be a bit wider, with a bigger welt etc. Quality Goodyear Welted footwear, made to last at a radical price. Item Information. Is this ill advised for a first loafer? Same on the eyelets. I know a lot of people size down half but 99% of the time, sizing down causes a length issue for my toes. and here comes how people doing your job can leverage meaningful portion of business for certain sectorsin this case the clothing industry. Loafers in France are usually either elongated in the Italian style, or chunky (boxy ?) Dark Cognac Horween Shell Cordovan NST Boot - Meermin Shoes Shop Men Women Made to Order New Arrivals Gift Card Shoe Finder About Get to know Us Stores Careers Lasts Rewards FAQ Rewards 0 Men Women New Arrivals Rewards Gift Card Shoe Finder FAQ Shipping & Easy Returns Order Tracking Stores Contact Us Download our App Login/Register Your Cart hi simon, been looking to purchase a casual shoe like this from paraboot (https://www.paraboot.com/en/men/boat-shoes/barthmarine-marron-america) and will be my first foray into this colour. Hello Simon. The understated look and outstanding durability of the shoes have made them a favorite of traditional menswear retailers in the U.S. for years. 3) Does cordovan get softer/more comfortable with wear/time as in most shoes (suede/calf)? I recommend doing so - with a cloth - before you wear them or when you want them to look particularly good. 2) Does cordovan get darker over time? Thats worth a read for detail on what cordovan actually is - more a membrane than a skin - and the work that goes into tanning it. Recently Ive been struggling to figure out how to buy a perfect denim shirt. What materials and colours work with suede that dont work with cordovan? Perhaps because it is a multi-generation family-owned business with a unionized workforce that sells everything they produce? Simon Keep in mind that anyone can view public collectionsthey may also appear in recommendations and other places. Bought one years ago and if I apply it like in the Jesper article the only thing I get is get scratches. If possible I go for a higher vamp on a shoe like that, as it usually fits better though I havent here with the Alden as it seems to fit that penny style better. Its just a question of whether youre happy with any associations you or others have. (Worn w/ nice jeans/slacks/sports jacket.) Ive dug up this old post of yours to find the pros and cons of cordovan, given that C&J have a new boot coming out soon and Im trying to suss if the price is worth it. Colour Horween Dark Cognac Shell Cordovan Add to Cart $741.00 Description Horween Shell Cordovan upper Derby construction with French binding Traditional oak bark counter & stiffener Footbed cork filled by hand Sustainable Lactae Hevea sole Clicker's Notes - Material Made To Order - Delivery Times Tax Free Shopping - Non European Orders Shoe Care i have the same full strap loafer from the alden x brooks brothers collab, bought 8 years ago and still look like they were bought 2 weeks ago. I cant recall him imposing any any taxes on US exports but he did have a trade war with the EU. As to belt, I wear a dark-brown leather most of the time, or even a black if its a smarter shoe/look. Shell cordovan (or cordovan) is a vegetable tanned, world-famous leather made of a specific layer of horsehide - "cordovan". Ah well, True. Whether its more casual than cordovan, well the material alone is probably more casual, but cordovan tends to be made into more casual shoes. Great! And your pair look totally dark, so dark that I find it difficult to believe it is a No.8. Hi Simon, somewhat related to Pauls question as well as your more recent post on wearing loafers with jeans, Ive recently become interested in trying black tassel loafers with jeans (dark, selvedge denim). Thank you! You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. I have a pair of Cordovan shoes from Crockett and Jones, and theyre well constructed, but a more snug fit than Aldens. I prefer them with wider trousers, or shorts. $169.90 $169.90. , I think you might find cordovan more satisfying Brian, and easier to wear with jeans and slacks too, Thank you Simon. Shell Cordovan. Im considering adding a loafer to my shoe collection to fill a gap. But they do have particular ties to the US Northeast, just because they became popular there, and were worn more in that community. USD 116.00, USD 145.00 The only thing that comes close is suede, and that is never quite as smart. Hopefully this clarifies the question! I tried to capture in the pictures that the toe looks a little fuller on the dark cognac pair, but it's also quite similar to the cognac calf pair (which is 10D). Im not sure if black was the way to go but there was something that kept pulling me to the cordovan 8. Certainly compared to Europe as a whole. I would appreciate your thoughts and maybe another recommendation! No doubt youve covered this somewhere else. I was looking at these pair of boots from Alden https://www.brogueshop.com/collections/shell-cordovan-1/products/alden-x-brogue-ruby-hill-boot-1 to wear with my https://thearmoury.com/products/the-armoury-by-nigel-cabourn-5-pocket-denim-jeans?variant=17728986677319 and my https://therealmccoys.com/collections/bottoms/products/001xx-washed Jeans. Its a little hard to say on the value I think theyre both decent value for what you pay in the US, though Allen Edmonds isnt what it was. Simon I just received a pair of Alden Cordovan chukkas, do you recommend shoe trees for storage? Did you order a dark No. Sole: High Quality Leather, Sanded and Buffed See upgradable sole options. I dont think you should try and match too closely Neil see post here. For reference, I already have Belgravias in dark oak, black calf, dark brown suede and snuff suede. 8 pairs of the color 8 from Alden.. but not these loafers. Thank you. Strap Length. I totally agree that, with most non-designer shoes, you get what you pay for. I think you could get either snuff suede or cordovan in that case. I have just one question: do we know whether any of the colours in the C&J cordovan range are in fact color no. Leather: Horween Shell Cordovan #4, #8, Black, Bourbon, Dark Cognac, Midnight Blue. We've maintained the lines & look of our HOK last, but adjusted to be able to accommodate the double insole system during production, without affecting the overall fit. I have an old pair of C&J Harvards (unlined cordovan pennyloafers btw are all cordovan shoes unlined?) It is intriguing to me. Thanks. I dont think they stock color #8, but usually have whisky and dark brown, which is a little different from Aldens Cigar brown. I rarely wear them with a suit they are not especially sleek or fashionable. and I think would look great dressed up. Dark brown ,snuff suede or cordovan? Ravello, medium brown. 3.5 2.5 0.25 Select. Dark Cognac Shell Cordovan . Dark Green Shell Cordovan Rally Strap $175.00 AUD. And I prefer the Alden shade of the colour 8 cordovan too. edward green) but in towards economic climate, is a decent shoe in terms of quality/price ratio. Ill have to check some of the online guides further. Very limited grounds for complaint generally, and even then its better to focus on all of the options that are readily available vs. whats not. Single Fold. (Excluding the price difference/personal preference.) And how many of the vegan alternatives are plastics that wont biodegrade. Cigar Cordovan. So, for example, there are shoes that can only be purchased from Shoemart or Leffot or their Madison Avenue store, etc. And perhaps somewhere that wasnt used to that colour. But from what you write here about comfort and opting for the larger size (if in doubt) I figure that I ought to go for the size 8,5/ E rather than trying my luck on a pair in size 8,5 D ? I bought some cordovan (Horween) derby from Churchs some time ago thinking that they were going to get that kind of patina that Aldens colour 8 gets and, unfortunately, it never happened. Assuming the shoe itself is smart enough, how would the colour 8 cordovan go with a navy or charcoal suit? thanks and any advice would be highly appreciated! Currently at 260, I feel like I cant really beat AEs quality at this price point. Thanks so much and take care! Drakes also has different permutations. Finished with signature double stitch detail to the front and rear that provide added strength at pressure points, hand stitching is a traditional process that has been used throughout Northampton shoemaking history. Other asked about Shell Cordovan colors. , this colour 8 makes up about 65% of their cordovan production. and Im now interested in buying a pair of casual/dress boots. sold out. Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. Would you agree with f.e. The Hand Stitch Collection is finished with Lactae Hevea soles. last year (shown below). (10% off), Keep collections to yourself or inspire other shoppers! Feel free to send me a DM if none of your local retailers will. The timing could have not been better! Following the standards set with bespoke, hand-welted shoes, allsneakers are cork filled by hand. The Ultraflex System is our newest take on the Goodyear Welt construction A whole new system developed from scratch where Quality & Style meet real Comfort. Join the Crown Northampton newsletter for product news and collection updates. Its a community thing, Hi Simon, Never had this with any other leather soled / heeled shoe. Chili is the same color as Garnet. Colour 8 does. What is your take on Crockett and Jones Bradford (Cordovan). Thanks. Ive avoided all creams, but rub and buff with standard kiwi polish and use trees to keep the shape. It was a great decision in that the loafers look lovely. Cordovan always seemed a little dull by comparison. Thank you. But I still dont quite understand your preference for Alden over Carmina on quality/value grounds. Thanks Quention. The end result of these combined classic techniques is a solid, reliable structure that offers superior strength and longevity. Really? Not really to be honest Mike. Original Price USD 82.00 2. Traditionally cordovan has not been that popular in the UK probably due to supply (and cost). Hey Simon, Am I alone therefore in finding it curious to see its use in loafers and often offered with leather soles? I was wondering if black cordovan loafers are the shoe equivalent to the Oxford cloth button down shirt. How would you compare Alden & Edward Greens Greenwich in Cordovan burgundy? Hi Simon, I tried on the same loafer today in size 8,5 E (which is the same size that I use in my EG Piccadillys) and I found that the size was almost perfect. 79.88, 93.97 Ive seen some people in more casual cities pull off balmorals or derby boots like a Galway with quality denim, but Im a little young to pull off that kind of boot in general. Slow vegetable tanned in pits where each shell is slowly steeped in gentle vegetable liquors, then shells are hot stuffed then slicked onto glass frames to dry. Thanks Quentin. Are these NW1? Hi Simon, And its a shade I prefer - you can see the difference in my Vass pair above. Early access to new releases, special events, and exclusive content. I think its because the cordovan is a single, flat colour and so doesnt get as much of the variation of other colours like no 8 shown here. Ah, I see. Take 1 full size down from your US size. I guess my point is: I am happy to pay for calf or suede EG principally because the leathers they use are at the absolute top of the industry (as is their make for GYW shoes) and there is an -in my experience- noticeable difference in how the leather wears from day one and especially how it ages. Not so sure about navy What are your thoughts? They were the kind of thing a flash salesman would wear. Hi, The last shape and toe cap are pretty casual, but its really the raw colour of the welt, the same on the edges of the leather, and the double white stitching. I used to feel the same way about suede as you once did about cordovan. Many thanks, Its something I will look at correcting at some point, perhaps by stretching them a little. The Aberdeen last wasnt available at the time. How do you like to wear your Alden Norwegian bluchers? $200.00 Very limited quantities available. But Im afraid no, I dont think they would work with smarter trousers like flannels. Here is a partial list of current shell cordovan colors that Horween offers: Color #8; Black; Dark Cognac; Garnet There is no black/purple look that I see from your pair. But then that might also mean your heel slips more. What about a suit lower down the formality scale, say a mid Grey flannel? To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. The problem is I have no chance to try on Aldens in a shop where I live. Also like the colour 8 shade that only comes from Alden. No problem at all. I'm a relatively recent convert to cordovan, but have come to love it as I've started to wear more casual clothing, and darker colours. Public collections can be seen by the public, including other shoppers, and may show up in recommendations and other places. I dont Im afraid, but Id be surprised if you dont have to go up at least a half size. I live in topsiders during the summer months and these also seem to have strong ties to the Northeastern United States. I wear them with denim, with chinos, and at the most with flannels and knitwear. I think that your review was not that favourable but I think that they have a fantastic shape and combination of materials and sole. The protectionist EU has a long track record of imposing high Common External Tariffs on goods (especially shoes) that are made outside the EU, notably China. Can you apply normal cream (for calf leather)? I think its more a question of whether you feel you do really need both colours for different looks you like. Since I had them resoled with R. double soles they are still going strong. I was thinking of the boots with Barrie. Gunmetal, dark and metallic grey. I would also concur that the break-in period is about on par with non-cord shoes. If so, could you provide more details? Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. It looks almost as if some patina artist (think Berluti) had a go at them. Hi simon i know you own black cordovan shoes. Cordovan takes its name from the city of Crdoba, Spain, where the production of cordovan leather was first practiced by the Visigoths in the seventh century. For now, Id recommend going for a more comfortable fit with cordovan, if you have the chance. And why specifically deer bone? Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. As for colour choice and material of the Alden loafer, what do you recommend? Thanks! They look slimmer on you than usual. A touch more casual basically. 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